Because I TOTALLY DID. Trying to find trans people talk about their experiences in Asatru, yes, this is what I wanted. Being told that having birth was Loki’s “punishment” for changing his gender and sleeping with a dude-horse. That is what I wanted.
Ugh.
There is just so much wrong….
I am sooooooo not going to bother clicking the link. :|
but I’m puzzled that I’ve also heard this from others — the idea that Loki’s binding was punishment for breaking gender roles/rules/norms — when I swear that the Edda that I read said that Loki was bound and punished for his role in Baldr’s death.
Nooo, his giving birth was punishment for it (according to this person). Whcih I think is even freaking weirder. Is the person trying to suggest that cis straight women are being punished with childbirth as well? O_o
(Although some argue that he was punished for pointing out the problems of the Aesir in Lokasenna)
once a non-pagan friend of mine was in a conversation with me about, I forget, something like heteronormativity or cissexism in myth, and he said, “and Loki was punished for giving birth!” and I was sitting there, scratching my head, trying to remember just where in the lore it mentions Loki being punished specifically for being Sleipnir’s mamma. because I thought Sleipnir was generally considered to be pretty fucking rad by the Aesir?
obviously, in the Lokasenna, Loki is chastised for being “womanly”, but it comes across as the sort of insult that came about because the rest of the gods were reaching for because they were exceedingly angry at Loki for other reasons, not really the central reason for criticism, and once Loki counters that accusation by mentioning that Odin also engages in non-gender-normative activities, the subject is quickly changed.
Yah, definitely. I can see some of the Aesir may not have liked it, but it seems more like “I don’t like you so anything you do that I don’t do is bad” than a “That is inherently bad”. As you said, when it’s pointed out Odin does it, it’s not like everyone turns on Odin.
also, this link is why I roll my eyes whenever anyone wonders why I am ridiculously fucking wary of most pagan communities, because seriously, they are for the most part a horrible clusterfuck of privilege and bigotry (despite the liberal stereotype of paganism) and I appreciate the fuck out of all the awesome pagan folk I have found on tumblr and I wish we all lived close enough to have a big Non-Oppressive-Asshat Pagan Festival or potluck or pancake breakfast or something. :B
Yeah…. Of course, liberal stuff has a really bad habit of being a really bigoted “Shove our bigotry under the rug and deny it vehemently” thing…
A pancake breakfast would be awesome.
